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    1993 Eclipse GS 4g63nt

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    93blackeclipse
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    1G 1993 Eclipse GS 4g63nt

    Post by 93blackeclipse

    Well it all started back in 2008 after I graduated high school, Instead of having my mom and dad buy me a car. I took my grad money and bought a 1993 Eclipse GS 4g63nt for $600.00. The previous owner told me it juss needed a soft plug in the back of the motor. So I bought it, put a new starter and soft plug in and went to start it. But when I poured the antifreeze in it all drained out the coolant pipe in the front of the motor. so I replaced it off the spare motor I had bought for $200.00 (6-bolt nt). Well we finally got it to start, but it was knocking, and ticking like no other. So we pulled the head off and found out that the previous owner hadnt told me he drove it with out the soft plug in it and worped the head and blew the headgasket.

    Heres pics from when I first got it.









    The old 7-bolt motor.



    The 6-bolt before the rebuild.



    I had bought some chrome rims for cheap. but didnt like them after a while.



    Well i came across some black 1gb headlights so i jump on them right away.



    Heres a picture before i really tore into it.



    I also i bought a triple gauge vent pod and a differant steering wheel.



    Than i started rebuilding the 6-bolt. i stipped the motor down and re-painted the block.



    I also got a turboed head and i cleaned that up and repainted my valve cover at work.



    I also picked up a set of black 17's.



    I cleaned up the transmission and threw in a stage 2 clutch.



    I also picked up a new oem carbon fiber hood.



    Now i just have sum finishing work to do. Heres some pictures of were iam at now.



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    Post on Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:42 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Ya after i get it back on the road this summer, I wanna drive it till winter hits. Than this winter go turbo. An aj your right plans do change alot.
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    Post on Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:32 pm by AJracer33a

    What ever you do, don't ride in a boosted car until you boost yours. If you ride in one today, you will be forking money out tomorrow to do the turbo swap lol. There is nothing like it.
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    Post on Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:18 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Haha yah...... i drove my brothers gst when he had that and it had forged internals an a few other things, cant remember and that pulled like no other.
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    Post on Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:26 am by 92tsifwd

    I love my boosted DSM! Lol never want another N/T
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    Post on Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:10 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Haha. Yah i am excited to just get mine running. Lets just say even thought its a non turbo it will most likley be the quickest car i have owned. lol.
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    Post on Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:24 pm by IntenseDimensionsPC

    yeah i hate driving in my brothers car, he has a 420gay and its boosted....
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    Post on Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:36 pm by 92tsifwd

    my brother has a 420gay too lol. Not boosted tho but its sooooooooo boring. just sounds nice
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    Post on Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:54 am by AJracer33a

    Hope you get her up and running soon after all your hard work.

    And be glad you have the 4G63 and not the 420A lol.
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    Post on Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:47 am by 93blackeclipse

    Haha iam glad mines a 4g63. And as far as getting it running, I have been pulling in some mean overtime at my new job so it might happen a little sooner. Nice thing about working at oreillys is i get a pretty nice discount. Haha.
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    Post on Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:23 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Well i finally got my new fuel pump and strainer. Iam going to be putting it in on saturday, and putting some gas in it. Iam hoping for the best. I also got some gauges. So i hope to get them mounted and hooked up. I have the triple vent pod. I will have to do a little shaving but i shud beable to make it work.
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    Post on Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:45 am by 93blackeclipse

    Well yesterday after work I went out and started taking my old pump out. When I pulled my assembly outta the tank it was pretty dirty. So me and my brother wen and got new gas cleaned everything up. Drained the old gas out. We went to start it and we had fuel but no spark so I went in our garage and took one off of one of the other motors and it fired right up. Pretty Exciting after 6 years. Now I Juss have to get exhaust done and wheel bearings.
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    Post on Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:01 pm by AJracer33a

    Took what off one of the other motors?
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    Post on Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:10 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Haha. Sorry i wrote that right when i had woke up. My coil wasnt working so we took one off one of the other motors in our garage. An it fired right up. Yesturday i went and cut the rest of the exhaust off and bolted on the rest of my downpipe and high flow cat. I also fixed a couple coolant leaks i found when i put coolant in it. But so far its running pretty good.
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    Post on Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:50 pm by AJracer33a

    Awesome man! Is it drivable or are you not driving her till the exhaust and wheel bearing are fixed?
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    Post on Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:44 pm by 93blackeclipse

    I am prolly going to wait to drive it till everthings fixed. Might take her down the block a couple times.
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    Post on Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:36 pm by AJracer33a

    Sounds good. The exhaust on my TSi is chopped at the downpipe. I love it. DD every day.
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    Post on Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:48 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Haha nice. Yah all mine has on it right now is the down pipe with a high flow cat bolted to it. Hopefully tomorrow I will be bringing it to my garage were I live so I can work on it with out having to drive 20 miles. Than I gotta get the front hubs off so I can get new wheel bearings pressed in. That I gotta figure out why I have positive camber on my front drivers side tire. The kid I bought from hit a curb and broke the control ARM. I put a new one on but its still got some camber to it.
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    Post on Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:19 pm by AJracer33a

    Hopefully it didn't bend the sub-frame. I bought a 1G that had a minor bent sub-frame. Kept popping out my axle and didn't know why. Seen the damage to the sub-frame. Changed it out and never happened again.

    It may have camber just because of the bad wheel bearings. Also happened to me once.
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    Post on Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:21 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Ya iam hoping its Juss the wheel bearing too. I have pretty much looked everything over and the only thing left is wheel bearings or the hub so hopefully it ain't to bad.
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    Post on Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:43 am by AJracer33a

    Wheel bearings do a lot to your tire wear. There was a point where my tires would show chords on payday, so I'd buy a set of used tires with 80%+ tread left on payday, then not have the money for wheel bearings so I would wait till next payday. Then that set of front tires were extremely bad, so new tires first. On and on and on.

    Eventually, I put the front tires on the back and back tires on the front mid-week. Then on payday, tires were bald, but not chording. So I got the wheel bearings, drove on bald tires for a couple weeks, then got 4 new tires.

    6 straight weeks, I'd be back at that tire place buying a pair of tires for the front. It was crazy. And somewhere in those 6 weeks, the right front wheel bearing was GLOWING cherry red and destroyed the right front axle. That had to be replaced....twice!
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    Post on Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:14 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Damn that sucks. Yah the only place around here to press wheel bearings in is carquest. hopefully they dont take too long. they had my jug for my 82 250r for 3 monthes and hadnt toched so hopefully it wont be the same bs. Hopefullly today i can get my car home and start working on it again.
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    Post on Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:15 pm by AJracer33a

    Places like Monroe, Mineki, umm...any repar/service shop will have a shop press. That's where I always go when I need bearings pressed.They don't charge much at all either- if anything. Takes like 5 mins to do, not even.
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    Post on Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:59 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Well yesturday i went and got my car. The only problem we had was that when we got their started the car and wen to put it in gear it wouldnt go it. So we tried bleeding the clutch. Their was no air in the system but it wasnt geting much better. so after we got it back home. I checked the slave cylinder and it was shot. So at work i ordered one, so hopefully i can get it on this weekend. i checked my master cylinder and it wasnt leaking, but iam iam sure it aint far behind. Iam just glad that i can actually work on it in a garage.
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    Post on Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:32 pm by AJracer33a

    Reminds me of Kurt's car. What a nightmare that was. The day we picked it up with my trailer, it wouldn't go into gear. Couldn't push the car at all. So I had him use the starter to move the car in gear. Did that and then the SOB fired up. So we drove it onto the trailer. We were able to stop the car with clutch in but you could start to smell the clutch.
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    Post on Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:17 pm by 93blackeclipse

    So I got my slave cylinder the other day. When I was taking the old one off it literally fell apart. So I put the new one on and the clutch just wasn't all their. Me and a buddy bled it by jacks transmissions steps and its still hard to put in gear. It will go in but its tough. So I adjusted my clutch pedal which their wasn't much to adjust the way it is. Tried it Gain and same thing. So today I ordered my new master cylinder because I realized the little tabs on the cap are missing and it was wet around the master cylinder. So hopefully tomorrow I can get the master put in after work. I also changed my transmission fluid today.
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    Post on Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:53 pm by AJracer33a

    Isn't this a PITA problem to have to figure out?

    Kurt and I went through this very thing with his 1G. We never found out the problem. We pulled the motor and trans in hopes it was because the trans wasn't flush with the engine because of a snapped bolt. Since then, we ran into life problems and put it on hold.
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    Post on Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:20 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Yah. I have a new slave cylinder on, and today iam putting my new master cylinder on. Hopefully it will fix it. I know my pedal assembly is okay. So hopefully I can get it going tonight.
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    Post on Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:46 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Well i got my new slave cylinder in, and my new master cylinder in, and it didnt solve my problem. i found out i need to pull my transmission and in the mean time i bought a new pivot ball and clutch fork. i also went and bought a new throw out bearing since the aftermarket ones are junk i heard. but on a good note the car runs great. I got it in my garage at my new apartment ready to pull the tranny. Here is a recent picture of the engine bay.



    I also ended up inquiring a new toy. Its a 49cc pocket bike. I owned one back in 08, but i sold it in 09. So i picked on up for cheap and fixed it up.



    It goes pretty good woth me on it. i passed a car in a 30 mph zone. plus its great on gas. hopefully with in the next two weeks i can get my transmission dropped and get everything straightened out.
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    Post on Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:51 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Well the picture in the above post is actually and old one haha. here is the most recent one.

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    Post on Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:02 pm by AJracer33a

    Get that tranny yanked out!

    Is that a paper air filter?

    I like your pocket rocket lol. Can you legally drive them on the roads?
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    Post on Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:52 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Yes it us a paper junk air filter. I have to order one at work since its a none stock item. I got a while back jus for starting purposes. And around here last I knew it was legal to drive them along as its under 49cc. I bought it for 40 bux got about 100 into it. Me and buddy were cruising and the cops here just laugh and wave Haha. It fits my lil girl just perfect. Even Rio she won't ride it till she's older she likes working on my car and our bike with me.
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    Post on Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:26 pm by AJracer33a

    That's awesome. Glad your little one enjoys the same things you do. My lil' girl is the same way. I sometimes think she loves boost more than I do.
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    Post on Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:27 am by 93blackeclipse

    Yah she loves helping. So today after work iam going to start pulling my transmission. Hope it goes okay.
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    Post on Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:23 pm by AJracer33a

    I hope you were able to get that transmission out today. I absolutely hate driveline issues. Especially ones that involve removing the transmission.
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    Post on Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:59 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Well the temperature around here has been pretty Damn cold. So I haven't been able to pull the transmission. But I did manage to get a propane wall mount heater that iam guna be using. I got it for free so that's even better. This weekend I will b hooking it up and yanking my transmission out. I hope it goes smooth.
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    Post on Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:30 am by AJracer33a

    Keep us posted. I cannot stand the cold weather either. Luckily, it's been 60-70 degrees here lately.
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    Post on Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:11 am by 93blackeclipse

    Yah its been getting about 32 degrees at night here. Maybe 40 during the day. Kinda sucks summer went way to fast. I will keep everyone updated.
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    Post on Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:05 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Well a little update. Yesturday me and my brother started pulling my transmission around 2:00 got it all out. Put in a new pivot ball with a washer from one of my old head bolts. Installed that back on with some locktite. We had the tranmission back in around 4:00. now my clutch fork is sitting in the right position, more towards the drivers side instead of the passengers. Once we got it all back together we started it up. It went into gear great the first time than it went back to the way it was.So we bled it about 8 times didnt make a differance. So today i went and checked it out and i couldnt move the slave cylinder like i use to. I crawled under the dash re-adjusted my master cylinder rod so i could push it with my hand. Now it goes into gear a little easier i just have to bleed the clutch a little more and hopefully it will all work out. After i get that all figured out i have to start with the front wheel bearings.
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    Post on Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:31 pm by AJracer33a

    Hopefully you got it all taken care of. Diagnosing problems like this is hard to so most of the time.
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    Post on Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:52 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Yah hopefully the next couple of days i will have time to adjust a little more and bleed it. Maybe tomorrow on my lunch break i will mess around with it. Might start on my gauges and pod getting it mounted since i dont have much money.
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    Post on Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:33 pm by AJracer33a

    Yep, do what you can. I don't have much money nor do I want to spend any on this for anything other than things that it NEED's.
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    Post on Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:52 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Yep i know what you mean. I took my center vents out for my gauges. All i have to do it shave a little bit away from the mount brackets for the center piece of the dash and than iam going to hook them up.
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    Post on Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:00 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Well its been really cold here in north dakota. I got my triple gauge pod mounted with my gauges. I still have to hook them up but they are mounted. I also noticed i had a leak from the coolant tube from the water pump side. So i went and bought the o-rings for that. Just have to wait till it gets a little warmer. Than next on the list is wheel bearings and get exhaust on it. But i am going to have to wait a bit, Because my daily drivers been running a little rough. Probably cause its at 240000 miles. So iam going to sell it and buy a 1996 talon esi for a daily.
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    Post on Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:58 pm by AJracer33a

    It's been hella cold here too man. It sucks working in single digit temps.

    I have had those O-Rings on the water pipe leak. It's a PITA to change with the turbo DSM's because you have to remove a bunch of crap just to remove the pipe. Beings your NA, it might not be too bad.
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    Post on Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:26 am by 95weclipse

    Hey I am don, well just so you 1g guys know, you cant awd swap a 1g like you can a 2g with out a huge amount of fab work and you can turbo a NA 4g63 up to about 9-10 psi all day long with no worries, and to do so on a 93 gs is you need a turbo ecu which you said you have, and they say you need a turbo mas but you dont because the non turbo mas has I think 6 wires and the turbo one has 7 and the 7th wire is only for the boost gauge on the dash but you would need a turbo dash cluster which you dont need as it is not accurate what so ever, and then you need a knock sensor, easy to install, you find the ecu input pin and run the one wire from the knock sensor to that pin and the other wire to a ground, then you need turbo injectors, which if you run turbo injectors or after market injectors for a turbo motor you will need the injector resistor pack its a little white box looking thing that has 5 wires going to it, I for get which wires go where exactly but I know the you cut one wire of each injector plug and wire them to the smaller wires on the resistor pack and the big wire in the resistor pack goes to the ecu side of one of them wires you cut from the plug and it doesnt matter which one I guess Id have find the write up on it to be exactly sure but any ways

    build looks good keep up the good work, I loved my 93 gs I wish I would have just put the head back on and drove the damn thing as a DD and when I got my 97 gsx I could have had a spare car lol!!!
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    Post on Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:00 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Well i havent done much, We had a good stretch of like negative 30 degree weather. I have the o-rings and everything to fix my leak, but i have been kinda putting it off since i need to get some work done on my daily driver. plus trying to save for our wedding here in july. Hopfully have it going and driving it by summer, and tear it back down towards the end of summer to turbo it i have a whole list of stuff to get. I have some of it since we have so many parts from our older cars we stripped down.
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    Post on Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:03 pm by AJracer33a

    Good info, Don.

    I have too been avoiding working on my car at all costs because of the cold weather. I cannot wait till it warms up. There are so many things I need to attend to.
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    Post on Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:56 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Well i finally got to drive my car after 5 years! I put 10 miles on it than started to notice my new timing belt had a bad wear mark down the middle of it. So i tore it back apart and found out i had used one of the long bolts in the oil pan where the shorter two are suppose to be. So i pulled the oil pan and replaced the bolts re-timed it again with a new belt. But i forgot to tighten the tensioner when i put it back on. But i caught it before anything bad happened. So now i finally got everything running good again. Shifts good and runs great!

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