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    1993 Eclipse GS 4g63nt

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    93blackeclipse
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    1G 1993 Eclipse GS 4g63nt

    Post by 93blackeclipse

    Well it all started back in 2008 after I graduated high school, Instead of having my mom and dad buy me a car. I took my grad money and bought a 1993 Eclipse GS 4g63nt for $600.00. The previous owner told me it juss needed a soft plug in the back of the motor. So I bought it, put a new starter and soft plug in and went to start it. But when I poured the antifreeze in it all drained out the coolant pipe in the front of the motor. so I replaced it off the spare motor I had bought for $200.00 (6-bolt nt). Well we finally got it to start, but it was knocking, and ticking like no other. So we pulled the head off and found out that the previous owner hadnt told me he drove it with out the soft plug in it and worped the head and blew the headgasket.

    Heres pics from when I first got it.









    The old 7-bolt motor.



    The 6-bolt before the rebuild.



    I had bought some chrome rims for cheap. but didnt like them after a while.



    Well i came across some black 1gb headlights so i jump on them right away.



    Heres a picture before i really tore into it.



    I also i bought a triple gauge vent pod and a differant steering wheel.



    Than i started rebuilding the 6-bolt. i stipped the motor down and re-painted the block.



    I also got a turboed head and i cleaned that up and repainted my valve cover at work.



    I also picked up a set of black 17's.



    I cleaned up the transmission and threw in a stage 2 clutch.



    I also picked up a new oem carbon fiber hood.



    Now i just have sum finishing work to do. Heres some pictures of were iam at now.



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    Post on Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:31 am by AJracer33a

    I just cannot believe the difference in the before and after pics. You did one hell of a job and definitely saved this 1G. It is looking really good.

    I am glad you didn't give up and abandon her like most do- especially with the NA's.

    Keep us updated. I think you have a great shot at the next ROTM award.
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    Post on Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:19 am by 93blackeclipse

    Thanks man! yah its definatley taken along time. but its better do to it right the first time. haha i will try and get some recent pics of the motor today. i reall wish my engine bay was a lil cleaner but it will have to do for now.
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    Post on Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:24 pm by AJracer33a

    I know how that is.

    I just got back from buying some spray paint, sand paper, Purple Power, and other stuff.

    Painting my other VC, cleaning the bay with the Purple Power, then removing a shit ton of stuff so I can paint the engine bay.
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    Post on Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:09 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Yah i know right. Everytime i go to work on my car, I end up doing 5 times more than what i planned on doing. And if i fix one thing, 10 more pop up haha. I have been offered many times to sell my 1g but i juss cant part with it.
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    Post on Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:10 pm by AJracer33a

    Yea buddy. That's how it usually works haha.

    Glad to see there is a special bond between you and the car.
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    Post on Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:33 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Ya i first had seen the car back in 2004 and i had got the money together went to go and buy it. but i was juss in time to watch the new owner drive away with it (previous owner i bought it from).
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    Post on Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:38 pm by AJracer33a

    Oh wow that's crazy. And you STILL ended up with it.
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    Post on Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:18 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Ya i know it must have been ment to be! Very Happy The previous owner beat the hell out of it. He hit a curb on the drivers side in the winter trying to "drift". I put a new control arm on, new tie rods, new struts.
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    Post on Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:27 pm by 93blackeclipse

    And I cant take all the credit for the rebuild. I had help from my brother, since iam still kind of a newb you know. But we all start out as newbs. I have learned alot from working on my own cars.
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    Post on Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:22 pm by AJracer33a

    Glad to see you got her all fixed up, man.

    We all have to start from scratch and learn at some point. It's the ones that don't give up that end up doing some great things with DSM's.
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    Post on Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:17 pm by 92tsifwd

    That 1g came out very nice. Always a fan of a clean 1g! Ive had 3 myself and I must say I love them. What are your future plans with it?
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    Post on Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:33 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Well this winter i wanna pull everything back out and turbo it with a 14b for now and eventually run a bigger turbo iam shooting for 350-400 hp. I want to run 2g pistons and 1g rods. but first i juss want to boost it and drive it for a while. Than i will start going bigger and better.

    Find some Evo 8 or 9 pistons. I got some for $100, but then sold them. You will have to get your wrist pins machined 1mm larger to accept the 6 bolt rod. They are semi forged from the factory.
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    Post on Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:37 am by 92tsifwd

    Sounds like a good plan. Id just buy a turbo motor and just build it how u want and then run the one you got till it blows or till ur built one is ready. Then throw the built one in and rebuild and sell the old one. Just a suggestion.
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    Post on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:31 am by 93blackeclipse

    Yah i thought about that too. but if i can find one for a decent price i would. It juss seems that anyone with a turboed dsm around here wants way to much for one. I have been keeping an eye out for one.
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    Post on Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:32 pm by 92tsifwd

    Ya I hear you on that! I found mine for a steal, but its also been a money pit too.
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    Post on Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:38 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Haha ya. But you gotta pay to play. Lol. Ya i had found one a couple monthes back but the guy wanted $3,000.00. The body was beat, high miles and yah just not worth it. And every jy i have checked dont have a 4g63t. Alot of 1.8 and 2.0nt. So hopefully before winter i can find one for a decent price.
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    Post on Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:29 pm by AJracer33a

    Hey, those 1.8's in the JY are valuable too. Non cruise cable and OEM Mitsubishi EGR block-off plates to name a couple =P
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    Post on Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:04 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Ya thats for sure. I ordered my non cruise cable from extremepsi. The closest junk yard from me is about 100 miles away that has any dsm's.
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    Post on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:17 pm by cl1ckclack

    make sure your careful putting a turbo setup onto a N/T motor. plenty of people do it, but i wouldn't turn up the boost too much, as its just asking for problems. especially if you aren't prepared, or don't have the money to pick up another motor when that one blows.
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    Post on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:30 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Well when i plan on pulling my motor iam going to get 2g pistons with 1g rods, evo oil squirters,all the gauges to monitor everything,bigger injectors and fuel pump,fpr,knock sensor,turbo ecu(already have),mas,intercooler, bov,down pipe,o2 housing,exhaust mani,turbo(already have),act clutch, flywheel, turbo transmission(already have). Iam sure we have more stuff int the garage but thats just off the top of my head. anything else anyone would suggest?
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    Post on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:36 pm by cl1ckclack

    sounds like you have done all of your research. props for that man! i can't tell you how many people don't do their research, and thats 99% of the reason DSMs have the reputation that they do! I'm sure you will come across some small things as your doing the build that you'll need. but it sounds like you have the basics.
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    Post on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:39 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Ya i have done alot of research. Haha. I know i will run into small things, I already have with the nt. And u have it right when you say ppl dont do the reasearch and how dsm's have the rep they do. I have got into it with many ppl cause they think dsm's arnt reliable. Its all in the up keep and maintence that you do to them. Just like any othe car. Thank you.
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    Post on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:43 pm by cl1ckclack

    upkeep, maintenance, and doing things right the first time! a lot of DSMers also think they can throw a 50 trim on, with a stock fuel system, run 30psi, and not have an issue... Shocked
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    Post on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:47 pm by 93blackeclipse

    cl1ckclack wrote:upkeep, maintenance, and doing things right the first time! a lot of DSMers also think they can throw a 50 trim on, with a stock fuel system, run 30psi, and not have an issue... Shocked

    Haha. Ya i know right, if people would just take the time to research and not be scared to ask questions they would spend half the money and know the RIGHT way to do things.
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    Post on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:53 pm by cl1ckclack

    yup. this is completely true, and if they didn't have such big dreams with small budgets, and think it was attainable, this wouldn't happen. a lot of people don't realize what kind of money proper supporting mods cost.
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    Post on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:57 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Exzactly. Gotta have the money to go fast. Thats for sure.
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    Post on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:59 pm by cl1ckclack

    yea, I've come to realize that very quickly. and let me tell you it isn't any fun!
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    Post on Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:56 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Well a little update. I finally got everything almost done for the motor. On thursday iam going to be topping off all the fluids, draining the old gas outta the tank, new fuel filter, and bolting down my valve cover. and gunna try and strart it. Hopfully it all goes good. Heres the most recent engine shot.

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    Post on Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:12 pm by cl1ckclack

    looking good man! bet your getting excited!
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    Post on Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:17 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Oh yah! You dont even know. Haha. After looking at it this long i just wanna get it running. Even if i cant drive it right away, Because it will be just running off the down pipe till i take it to the exhaust sho.
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    Post on Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:37 pm by cl1ckclack

    fuck it, drive it without one!
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    Post on Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:40 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Haha. Iam sure i will take it for a little drive. Cant resist after all the work.
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    Post on Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:38 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Little update. I went and tried to start my car and my fuel pump wont kick on. So next check iam going to go and buy a new one. Besides that i got my valve cover bolted down, new fuel filter, oil an filter. So i wont be doing to much till my next check. But i finally started my new job at oriellys, So atleast i get a good discount. Haha.
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    Post on Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:39 am by AJracer33a

    Glad to hear. Do you know where the fuel pump test connector is?

    http://www.eatsleepdsm.com/h26-quadrant-1

    In the pic, there is a red dot on the left of the battery terminal. This is where it is located.

    Your Hayne's Manual or similar will show this, where it is, and how to test it.

    The thing isn't set up in THROTTLE yet.
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    Post on Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:53 pm by 92tsifwd

    Hey man its looking really good! I hate to ask you this but I have to. My tranny in my TSi went and Im having a hell of a time trying to locate another 1g FWD Turbo Trans so would you be willing to sell the one you have? Its cool if not because I know they are a pain to come by as this is the second time Ive had to search for one.
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    Post on Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:11 pm by 93blackeclipse

    I would but like you said its a pain to find one. If i hear of another one i will let you know for sure.
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    Post on Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:20 pm by cl1ckclack

    92tsifwd wrote:Hey man its looking really good! I hate to ask you this but I have to. My tranny in my TSi went and Im having a hell of a time trying to locate another 1g FWD Turbo Trans so would you be willing to sell the one you have? Its cool if not because I know they are a pain to come by as this is the second time Ive had to search for one.

    time for an AWD swap???
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    Post on Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:39 pm by 92tsifwd

    I would just do the swap but I dont have the time, money or a place to do it. Please let me know if you come across any.
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    Post on Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:58 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Yep i will keep an eye open.
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    Post on Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:32 pm by 93blackeclipse

    So iam kind of at a stand still.... Till i get a full check from my new job.
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    Post on Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:07 pm by 92tsifwd

    I know how that is too. I found a tranny in Jersey for $400 but Im waiting on cash.
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    Post on Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:23 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Ya i hate waiting haha. Iam glad you found one. I called all the junk yards around looking for trannies and came up with absolutley nothing. Atleast with my new job i get a pretty damn good discount haha.
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    Post on Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:14 am by 92tsifwd

    There aint shit in any junkyards anymore, except a whole lot of junk!
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    Post on Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:29 am by 93blackeclipse

    Haha aint that the truth all the junk yards around here just had the crusher come in so its slim pickings.
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    Post on Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:01 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Well i have to wait a while before i work on my dsm.Crying or Very sad Right now iam actually saving money to move. But after i move i will be able to start back on it and i will have a garage for it. So i wont be working outside on it.
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    Post on Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:02 pm by 92tsifwd

    I hate not having a garage. Especially going from having a garage to not having one.
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    Post on Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:59 pm by 93blackeclipse

    Yah i know what you mean. When i lived in alexandria minnesota we had a double stall garage with and oil bay on one side. But my eclipse was still stuck in north dakota. I have alwas had to work on my car out side. Even tho we have a double stall garage at my parents were my car is.
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    Post on Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:47 pm by IntenseDimensionsPC

    So is this 4g63 n/t going turbo?... im doing the same swap in my talon Es... since i dont have a garage either its a pain in the butt!
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    Post on Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:51 pm by AJracer33a

    IntenseDimensionsPC wrote:So is this 4g63 n/t going turbo?... im doing the same swap in my talon Es... since i dont have a garage either its a pain in the butt!

    His "down the road" plans are to go boosted, yes. But I think his intentions are to keep it NA for a little while.

    But then again, plans change.

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